Ep.37 Working Mamas, I See You
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If you’re a parent, does this sound familiar?
Feeling guilty when you’re working because you’re not with your kids, and then feeling guilty when you’re with your kids because you’re not working?
It can come down to your definition of success. Everyone has a different definition of what it is, and you are allowed to claim yours and create your own plan for work-life.
What I’m talking about in today’s episode applies to you if you have kids or not, since it’s about your dreams, goals and expectations – and we’re going to talk about the grind and hustle, because it’s not for everyone.
Here’s what I talked about:
- How I worked before I had my kids (and what changed after they were born!)
- Claiming your own goal (whatever that is!)
- The discrepancy between our expectations and our goals (and whether your work-life plan matches up!)
- What I’ve learned about staying productive (this involves naps!)
- Getting to your work-life goal (and know that you’re taking care of yourself!)
I know you are interested in making a big impact in your group programs and helping many people. The world needs you, so take care of you first and go towards what your definition of success is, no matter what others are doing.
If you enjoyed this podcast, you may enjoy these 3 other podcast episodes about taking your next step towards your dream:
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Ep.33: When Your Dream Isn’t Your Dream
Prefer reading? Here’s the transcript below
Stephanie: Today, we’re going to talk a little bit about mommying. So, friend, if you’re a mom, if you’re a dad, if you’re a parent, if you want to be a parent, if you’re planning on being a mama or a papa, this one’s for you.
And you know, friend, if you don’t have kids and you’re not planning on having kids, that’s cool too. I think that the message today might still apply to you as well because we’re really going to talk about your definition of success and your goals for your work-life. And we’re going to talk about grind and hustle, because it’s not for everyone.
So welcome to another episode. I’m so glad that you’re here with me. Please know, no matter where you stand on the kiddo topic, you are welcome here. I’m especially going to speak today and call out the mamas and the papas who are working, and especially talk to the mommies.
I’ve been very, very blessed. I’m so grateful that my pregnancy stories have been fairly simple and straightforward and that my husband and I have gotten pregnant within a couple of months of trying each time. We have two children. We have two boys and so I’m very, very grateful for that.
But for many, many women, we start the process of the baby making well before we even have a human inside of us. There’s so many things to work on to prepare your body to grow and birth and raise a little person.
So if you’re a mom or a dad, you are a hero if you’re parenting and showing up as a parent and working. And we’re going to get into that in a second. If you’re a female that is planning on or who has prepared to carry a baby, carried a baby, birthed a baby, no matter how you did it and then, cared for that human, you are my hero. You are a true hero on this planet.
You can’t quite get it until you do it. You can have empathy and respect and love for anyone who’s done it. My husband was present in the birthing room, he was right in there. He helped out, and I love him for that. He’s such a hero for doing that. So he’s as close as he can get to it. But, man, he’ll never really get it.
I don’t really get it until I’m in it. Some things are just like that. But being a mom and preparing yourself for that and then carrying that human inside your body, oh my goodness, it’s wild and crazy. And even with my second, I was like, “This is nuts, this is super nuts.”
There’s so many things that go on in your body, and so many things that go on in your mind, and so many things that you can’t do or you can do. It depends on the day and the minute and the hour and the week. It can change in a heartbeat. Okay, and then you birth the baby. I have a four and a half year old and it’s still challenging. But definitely, for at least the first three years it was tricky, especially the first 6 to 12 months.
But then you have this little person who’s like teething and cutting molars through their skin and growing. My four and a half year old has growing pains right now in the middle of the night. Oh my gosh, so many things.
So having these babies, birthing these babies, nurturing and loving and caring for these babies is so insane. It’s so wild, and it’s such a sacrifice. And the thing is, is something has to be sacrificed for that.
I need to stand up and speak out. I know some people are doing this but I don’t think enough are about the messages that surround grinding and hustling and working 12-hour days, 10-hour days… I don’t care, 10-hour days are insane, 12-hour days from morning till night, Saturdays and Sundays, 365 days a year. That is not for everybody.
If that’s your definition of a really healthy work-life and you love work, then power to you, like absolutely no judgment. If you want to work that way and you love working that way, and you’re making millions of dollars and you’re growing your business and you love it, amazing, good for you. I think that’s wonderful. I genuinely do not have any disrespect or any judgment around that.
I just want to say that not everybody needs to do that and not everybody wants to do that. It’s okay if you have kids or not and you don’t want to work that way. It’s okay if your goals aren’t to run a business that makes $500,000 a year, $1 million a year, it’s okay. You can have your own dream, you can have your own definition of success.
I work with a lot of people, but I work with a lot of women, and a lot of women who have kids. I’ve been a dietitian for 10 years. So in working with and working for colleagues who are dietitians or any health professional, there’s a lot of people who really want to work for themselves so they can work four days a week and they can take an extra day off. There’s a lot of people who want to work part-time.
I’ve worked with a lot of clients who are on mat leave and they’re starting and they are hustling. They are working on mat leave when they feel like they should be spending more time with their babies, but they’re also trying to build this business and build this dream so that they don’t have to go back to a 9-to-5 job. And that’s your goal.
Claim Your Own Success Goal
I just want to give a shout out to you. No matter what your goal is, that you can claim your own goal and it doesn’t have to be $1 million, and it doesn’t have to be seven days a week of working. You can claim that goal if it’s working part-time, if it’s making $50,000 a year or $30,000 a year, if it’s just replacing your 9-to-5 salary, if it’s making more money than your 9-to-5 salary.
So let’s say you make $50,000 and your goal is to make $60,000, your goal is valid and your dream for your life is valid. And again, whether you have kids or not, but especially if you have babies and part of working for yourself is so that you can be home by four o’clock or gosh even 3:30 to pick them up from school, or if your dream is to stay home on Fridays with babies, or to be able to work from home part-time as you raise your kids before they go off to school.
I just want to validate your dream and your goal and tell you that you are doing a fantastically great job. I personally don’t want you to feel bad. I don’t want you to feel like you have to work harder. I don’t want you to feel like you’re slacking. This is really personal because I’m saying, “I don’t want you to do this.” But I don’t think you do either. I don’t think we want to feel bad or we want to feel guilty.
We feel guilty when we’re working because we’re not with our babies, and then we feel guilty when we’re with our babies because we’re not working. Can we stop that? I don’t know how, but can we stop that? Maybe if we rally together and we stand up for our goals and how we define success and we shout each other out and say, “You got this. I believe in you. You’re doing a great job,” maybe we can feel a little less guilty about what we’re not doing.
But please can we start with the fact that grinding and hustling 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year is not necessary for everyone and that you are allowed to define your own success. You are allowed. Also, we’re not going to judge anyone else. We’re not going to judge anyone else’s working schedule or how much they’re working, how many hours they’re working or what they’re doing. We’re just not going to judge.
We’re not going to judge the people who are working that much. I ask that the people that are working that much not judge us and not put pressure on us and make us feel bad that we want to have Friday off, or we want to work six hours a week, or we want to make a human, and we know making a human is a ton of work, and that there is a season for everything. Maybe one day we’ll work a little longer hours, or we’ll work on the weekends or whatever.
But making babies and growing babies and birthing babies and healing from birth and raising those little humans requires energy. It requires time, it requires naps. I want to respect and honour and love on all of you working mamas who are doing the heavy lifting in that role, and all you working papas who have a role as well, a good role, strong role, props to you.
All you working mamas who are going through this with the lack of sleep, the connection you have to your babies, the growing them, the nursing them, all the things. It’s a lot and we have to give ourselves a little bit of grace. I want you to give yourself a little bit of grace and tell yourself right now that you are doing a damn good job and that you are doing enough right now.
The thing is there’s all different kinds of definitions to success. Everyone has a different definition of what it is, and you are allowed to claim yours.
How I Worked In My Business Before I Had Kids
For me, before kids, I really pushed it. The year I got married I was 29, and we had our first baby when I was 32. So in my 20s, I was working like three or four jobs. I was going through doing my master’s program. Then after my master’s program, I took two jobs because one job didn’t make enough money.
So I really wanted the job and I convinced them to let me do the job in four days. So I worked, I think it was like 32 hours a week. So it was eight-hour days which isn’t that long. But it was a lot of work four days a week. And then on the Friday, I would work a 10-hour shift at a long-term care home. So I did pretty well my first year as a dietitian, but I was working in two jobs to do it.
Then I got another job and I remember I did some consulting work. So then I was working a 9-to-5 job and my next job and then doing some consulting work on the evenings and weekends. Then I got a part-time job and started to build my practice at the end of my second year of being a dietitian.
So I had only been a dietitian for about a year and a half before I started my business and I was working part-time about three days a week or so. You may have heard this story before. In the beginning, I was doing culinary school in the morning five days a week, and then I was going off to my job in the afternoon until about 5:00. So I was at culinary school at 7:30 in the morning and totally geared up with my outfit on, my hat and my scarf and all the things ready to cook at 7:30, on time or else you’re in trouble. Then I was done at 11:30.
I think I’d go home and shower and then go and then see clients from like 1:00 to 5:00 or something like that five days a week. So I did that for a bit and then I worked at that job about three days a week. I was working, building my business, I would say like the other four days a week. I’m not sure how much time I took off. I know I was working in the evenings sometimes, I know I was working on the weekends sometimes. I was taking consulting work like anything, because I was pushing everything forward.
At that time, I was… I don’t know, I think I was about like 28, 29, 30, 31 before I had kids. So before I had kids, I hustled in my work-life a lot differently and probably more. And I had the room and the space to do that and that’s what I chose. You don’t have to choose that, but that’s what I chose.
What Changed In How I Worked When I Was Pregnant
During children, like when I got pregnant with Deacon, I still really hustled a lot. I didn’t know what it was like to have a baby, so I thought I could still do everything. The year he was born, 2015, he was born in March, I was on national television when I was like seven months pregnant. I also went back on national television seven weeks after he was born. I had my mom come to the studio and I nursed all day, like every two hours in between preparing, getting my makeup done, everything. He was right there in the studio. That was me hustling.
I went back to work right away after like a week. I wasn’t working like a full-time job, but I was working a couple afternoons a week, and then I went back to work one or two days a week. Then near the end of the year, like two to three days a week. So I was never really back full-time, but I was still working a lot… well, it felt like a lot.
Besides national television in June when Deacon was two and a half months old, me and my husband and my son flew to Quebec, where I taught two workshops at a national conference there. And then in the fall, he was six months old, we drove five hours to Sudbury and I held a full-day workshop there.
So I had inserted all of this, like TV and travel and conferences and all these things and still tried to hustle, still tried to keep the momentum going and show my face and be present at a national level.
Here’s what happened, I burnt out. At six months, I had a breakdown. I would say like a mini breakdown, but I had a breakdown. Started therapy and started to figure out what the heck I was going to do, because of this I couldn’t keep up. I couldn’t have a baby, I couldn’t be pushing and traveling and trying to kill myself working like I used to work seven days a week.
It took me about a year and a half to work through that process of identifying who I was and what I wanted and what would make me happy, and maybe redefine my definition of being a woman, of being a human, and of what success looked like. And then when I got outside of that, I felt good and we had another baby. We got pregnant again. I was like, “I’m ready.” And we got pregnant again with the second, David.
I remember being pregnant with David and flying down to a meeting in Texas and saying to my team there, “I don’t want you to treat me any differently because I’m pregnant. I don’t want you to look at me and be like, ‘That’s a pregnant lady.’ I want you to look at me and be like, ‘That’s Stephanie Clairmont, and she’s here to work, and she means business.’ ”
I remember saying that and I do not know what I thought I had to prove, but there’s something. When you’re pregnant and when you’re a mom, especially in those early times, there’s something I think that many of us feel like we have to prove that we’re still valid and we’re still valuable and our brains still work and we want to be respected and we want to be looked at like we’re capable.
I don’t know why that’s there. Maybe the world makes us feel like we’re not capable, maybe it’s our own crap that we need to sort out. But I went through it and I experienced it, and I said that out loud to people. What’s so funny is within a few months, I was so pregnant with David. He came out, and if you don’t know this, he was 10 pounds, seven ounces and six days past his due date. So I was very big, very pregnant, I was pregnant for a long time and he was humongous.
Earlier in the pregnancy, probably when I was six or seven months pregnant, I was done. I was huge and super uncomfortable and exhausted and growing a human in my body, which is amazing. And that needed my focus. Something intuitively just said to me, “You need to slow down, you need to stop working, you need to just tell the people to bugger off and just take a nap. Focus on growing the human.” And so that’s what I did for like two months before he came out.
Then he came out and then I didn’t work for another, I would say, like six to eight weeks or so. I gave myself a bit more grace with the second pregnancy. Now having two kids, I see people out there, and they’re working a lot, and they’re working on the weekends, and they work in the evenings. And sometimes I’m like, “Man, I wish I could work more.”
Have you ever thought that? Have you ever seen other people working really hard and being like, “I wish I could work more. I wish I had more time to work, but I got to go to bed at 9:30”? And then I catch myself and I’m like, “Do you want to work more because you can? I can just not go to bed at 9:30, or I can work on the weekends”, I’ll tell you what – sometimes I do.
My husband is an incredible supportive human that just lets me do whatever I need to do. If I had to work at night, I’d work at night. And sometimes on the weekend he checks in with me, and he’s like, “Do you need some time alone? Do you need to read a book? Do you need a nap? Do you want to go do some work at the coffee shop?” And sometimes I take a nap and sometimes I go and work at the coffee shop.
Staying Productive
Some weeks are busier than others. Sometimes I feel more pressure than others. Sometimes I’m more comfortable with not working. And some days I am stressed, and I feel like I need to do more work. Have you ever felt this way? Sometimes you feel a little stressed about work, and so you go and do two to three hours of work. And after that, you’re no less stressed.
What you really needed to do is go to a yoga class or meditate or take a nap. I think I have said take a nap so many times in this podcast and I’m not done with the napping yet. It’s true. Sometimes we feel like we need to grind and hustle and push harder, and what we really need is to rest so that we can be more productive.
What’s super cool is that we’re seeing a lot of studies coming out recently about productivity and that not everyone can be as productive as they need to be. If you do work 8 hours a day, or 10 hours a day, or 12 hours a day, or 7 days a week, some of the research that I’ve read to date does shows that we can be more productive with less hours of work. So some things I’ve read are 50 to 55 minute intervals of work and then taking a break or six hours a day. There are some workplaces that are actually reducing Friday workday, so Friday’s like a half day.
So there’s all this cool stuff actually coming out to support productivity and that you don’t necessarily need to work seven days a week, 12-hour days. So that’s good. Let’s keep that in our pocket, and I’ll make that episode so you can keep that episode in your pocket as well for you. But that’s great, and that’s the truth.
If you listen to your body, sometimes you don’t need to work, you actually need to meditate, or take a nap, or talk to a friend, or drink a coffee, or whatever it is. You need to relax. And then when you get back to work on Sunday or Monday or whenever you sit down and do something, your brain is in a different state, your body is in a different state.
So I think my point here is that there are seasons and there are also moments each week and each day in each month. I can speak to women, especially how within our 28-day, 30-day cycle we have different experiences and different feelings and different abilities, capabilities. We are creative. One week we are tired, one week we feel more engaged and action-oriented, one week and maybe one other week we feel like we need to rest more. We function differently as women with our cycles as well as just in our lives, just naturally.
I think we need to tune into our intuition a little more. If there’s a season when you need to work at night when your babies go to sleep, do it. If there is a season when you need to block off time on Sunday two to three hours or however long you want and do some work to get yourself feeling confident and comfortable for Monday, do it. Why not?
I just want you to feel free and comfortable to check in with yourself and do what you need to do and know that someone else’s outline of success, someone else’s challenge for you to work harder and work longer is not necessarily what you need to do.
Goals & Expectations For Our Online Health Programs
Where I think we need to honour those people who are challenging us to work harder is when our expectations are high. Let’s check in on our expectations for a second because I struggle with this. If you’re expecting your business to grow incredibly quickly, if you’re expecting to get 10 new clients every week, if you’re expecting to double your revenue from last year this year and then double it again next year and you aren’t working 12 hours a day, seven days a week, that might just not be possible.
So I think where these hustle and grind arguments or challenges are so helpful for us is with our expectations in our business and in our work-life financially and whatever your key performance indicators, or whatever your definition of success is, or whatever you’re trying to get to.
Sometimes there’s a discrepancy, often between what we’re expecting and what our goals are. “I want to make $50,000 in my next launch. Why is that person doing $70,000 launches, or why is that person doing $100,000 launches, or why does that person have so many deals with spokesperson work? I want to get there. Why do they have this many followers on Instagram? I want to get there. I need swipe up.” But then we look at our goals and our plan for work-life and it doesn’t match up.
I think this idea of grind and hustle to be successful is so useful because it shows us, “Wow, in order to make half a million dollars, I actually would need to work seven days a week, and I would need to work at night, and I would need to be pushing harder.” Do I want to do that? Do I want to make half a million dollars if it means I’m working seven days a week, 12 hours a day? I don’t know if I want that. I definitely don’t want that. Do you want that? You might, you might not.
But it’s good to see that. It’s good to see that if you’re frustrated that you’re not moving quickly enough, that your followers aren’t growing, that your sales aren’t increasing, that your launches aren’t getting better, if you’re struggling with that, let’s back up for a second and look at what your goals are with your work-life.
Let’s back up and look at what success actually means to you. What’s success financially? What’s success with your family life? What’s success with your working hours? What does that look like?
Let’s define a plan for you. Let’s figure out how you’re going to hit those goals. And also, let’s decide if we need to lower our expectations on growth and how quickly you’re growing. Another big part of it that I’m not going to dig into too much in this podcast is that you do have a possibility of growing significantly without working all those hours.
There’s actually lots of possibilities for this, but one of them is paying more money. So a lot of people don’t work seven days a week, 10 hours a day, and they make lots of money. But they have a team, they’re growing systems, they’re growing processes, and they’re bringing people in on their team to support them.
So it takes a lot of hours and it takes a lot of work, but you don’t have to do it all yourself. You can have other people on your team that help you make more money, but you pay those people.
So there’s lots of different ways to make more money, to get more clients to grow your business. That doesn’t necessarily mean you have to put more hours in, but someone has to put more hours in. So I want to just shout out and appreciate everybody out there who is pushing these messages of grinding and hustling and what it takes to make $1 million, or what it takes to grow a business, or what it takes to have this kind of financial success and significant growth.
Thank you for showing us what that looks like and that you’re not just doing nothing every day, and you’re not working part-time, and you’re not even working just Monday to Friday, 9-to-5. You’re showing us what it takes to do that, and I appreciate that. I respect that and I’m in awe of it. It’s wonderful.
I’m going to just leave it right there, and then I’m going to sit down with myself, and I’m going to map out what success means to me, what my goals are and the season of life that I’m in, and what I want to do to be happy. And then I’m going to match up that with my expectations. Can you do that along with me?
Because I think that if we did it that way, we would feel less pressure from the messages that we’re seeing out there that are making us feel bad, that are making us feel like we need to work harder, that are making us feel like we’re slacking. We can maybe have a little less guilt about being at work instead of being with our babies, and then when we are with our babies knowing that we don’t necessarily need to be working and we can enjoy that time.
I think if we reframe this and we give back that hardworking seven days a week, 10-hour days to that person and say, “That’s you and that’s your season and you can own that, and thank you for sharing that with me. This is me, this is my season, this is my goal, this is what I want to do, and I’m okay with that. And here’s what that can produce for me.” What do you think about that?
Getting To Your Work-Life Goal
All right, so here is my takeaway for today’s episode. Number one, own your own definition of success. Write out what that looks like. What does your day look like? What does your week look like? How much time is for you? How much time is for work? How much time is for baby? How much time is for all of the things? And even financially, what is your definition of success? What are you striving for? Are you doing it right now?
Number two, accept the season that you’re in. Can we just accept it and know that it’s a season and it won’t last forever? My one-year-old isn’t going to be one forever. He’s already one, and he’s growing like a little boy, oh my God. And my four and a half year old, he’s not a baby anymore. Can we just accept the season that we’re in and just do the best we can right now and know that it’s not going to last forever and things will change?
Number three, do me this favor, keep dreaming. Keep that notebook of ideas, keep writing stuff down, keep thinking, keep experimenting, keep dabbling, keep dreaming. Maybe you’ll have the space to do that dream next year.
Number four, this is an important one, surround yourself with the right people. Surround yourself with mompreneurs, or working parents, or people who work part-time and raise their babies. Surround yourself with people who get you and who have similar goals and who are striving.
If you have anyone that you’re following on Facebook or Instagram or anywhere that’s triggering for you, just delete them, just stop following them, just check in with them another time. If they aren’t serving you, if they are sharing messages that are making you feel bad or making you feel like you’re slacking, just don’t follow them anymore.
And number five, take a nap. Some days just require a lay down. They require a nap. So don’t feel like you’re slacking. Know that you’re taking care of yourself. This is something that I have come into in the last 12 months is if I do not prioritize myself, if I do not take care of myself, if I do not go for a swim, or I don’t exercise, or I don’t drink enough water, or I don’t get sleep, or I don’t take time to nap or read books or see friends, if I don’t take care of myself first, everybody else is in trouble. You’re all in trouble.
My clients, my podcast listeners, my family, if I’m not taking care of me, how the heck am I going to do a good job? The work that I do in life with my family, with my clients, with you. So people need me, I need me and it’s the same for you. People need you, you need you, the world needs that thing that you have to offer.
What does Marie Forleo say? “The world needs that special thing that you have to offer”, or something like that. It’s true. The world needs you, man. The world needs this special gift that you have, this incredible expertise you have to change and impact health.
If you’re listening to this podcast, you are interested in a big impact in group programs and helping many people The world needs you, so put your mask on first. Take care of you first. Give yourself grace. Don’t feel pressure from other people who do it differently than you, who have a different definition of success, and take a nap.
I posted this on Instagram the other day about mommying and I asked some of you to provide me with your favourite tips on being a working mom, a mom entrepreneur. And so here are a few of you guys sharing some of your tips.
So Neutral Foodie Org says, “How do you plan for life and business when it’s pretty dependent on your kids?” That is the question that you have for me and that’s a damn good question. Well, I think the first thing is support. I think that the thing that helps me the most is planning for support.
When Stuart and I were relying more on our parents early on with our family, it was really hard because stuff comes up for them. And I needed more support than a couple of hours a day. So one of the things that has really helped me out is planned and paid support so that I have very clear guidelines of when I’m working and when I’m not working.
So there are two things there. Support, specifically paid support so that you have reliable support, whether that’s a daycare or nanny or whatever, and you have that time carved out for work. So scheduling things and being really mindful of your organization and your planning and the tasks that you need to do every week. So thank you for that question.
Then I have a tip from Roots and Rise Academy. “Set yourself up with some backup content to pull out when you just can’t do it.” So that’s a great tip for podcasting or writing articles. One of the things with content creation is we have to show up consistently for our audience, whether it’s on Instagram or wherever. Sometimes we can fall behind. So planning things out so you have some bonus extra stuff, or so that you’re just planning ahead, like trying to batch things out so you have a month planned ahead, that can also be super useful. Great tip!
Nutrition for Baby, Jessica says, “Separate fam and biz as much as you can.” I get you. Her 15-year-old just finished up a bout of…oh gosh, hand, foot, and mouth. Lord, I had that myself because Deacon got it when he was little and it’s the worst. Did you know it’s way worse for adults? It is the worst ever. Avoid that at all costs.
But separating family and business out as much as you can, I think that’s carving out those separate times, and if you can, I know this is hard, different spaces. So my office has always been a place where I can close a door. I know not everyone has that ability, but maybe working outside of your house can be useful, but separating is a good tip. Thank you for that.
Louise Marie says, “It can be frustrating, but our little people need us too. And I feel that other women, especially us more when they know we’re doing our best to meet our promises in business while juggling to be a mom.” So the tip is that our people need us and it’s okay to share this,. It’s okay to share when you’re dedicated to your clients. Maybe it’s certain hours a day, or maybe it’s certain boundaries that we need to set up, like here’s how I’m here for you client and here’s how I’m here for my family.
I think I’ve personally been getting a lot of great responses too as I’m sharing my stories with you and just showing that I’m a real person and there’s lots of things going on. I still know my stuff and I’m very, very helpful with my clients who want to create and launch their online programs, and I feel like an expert in that.
But there are boundaries to my work, and I have a team and I have help and that’s all really important to support you best. Louise’s other tip is to run a tight calendar with everything in it and delegate some home jobs. She says, “I love cooking, but I’ve had to hand that to the hubby while doing my programs.” So she’s running an online program. There’s a couple of good tips there. So tight schedule, blocking off that time and also help around the house is so key.
We were talking about delegating just really briefly at one point in this episode. I had just answered that to someone else’s question as being a huge part of it. I don’t want to say you can’t do it all because you can do whatever you want. But I think the home stuff, like whether you have someone help you with laundry, or housekeeping, or you do have a nanny like me, or maybe your partner or spouse can pick up and do different things than you, is such a big part of it.
So thank you so much for your tips. And of course, if you are listening to this and you have any more tips you want to share, please come in and chat on Instagram.
I hope that you found this helpful. And I would love, love if you could find me on Instagram @TheLeveragedPractice and let me know what you think about this one. If it was helpful, if you agree with me, hey, if you disagree with me, I would love to hear from you. If I can do anything else along the way to help, just let me know, and I’ll meet you back here next time.